. >> president obama can selling a plan with vladmir putin. the dip lo melting relation deter at the derrior rated in part on the edward snowden saga. the deputy director of csiis's russia and eurasia's matters. are there currently right now u.s.-russia relations and is this just noise? >> yeah, there are definitely u.s.-russia relations, just at the diplomatic level, the summit is off, you have the foreign and defense ministers meeting in a couple of day, you got, president obama is still in sanet petersburg for the g-20 summit. there will be some kind of action with president putin while he's there. on the substance, u.s. and russia have a lot they need to talk about, whether it's syria, iran, yank or missile defense or anything else. >> exactly. so how much will be lost by not having this one-on-one meeting? >> you know, in the short run, i think you lose an opportunity to kind of layout markers for the bureaucracies so they have goals, which is the value of these sums sometimes, in the longer term, though, again, the relationship is still